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Коммент на книгу Stranger in a strange land от одной читательницы Christy.3. The sexism of the text, which is inseparable from its heteronormativity and even homophobia. Despite Heinlein's progressive (especially for the time) ideas about sexuality and desire, he reinforces the gender dichotomy repeatedly, putting women and homosexuals in their place as he does so. Sometimes this is obviously negative and hard to miss, especially for a modern reader: "Nine times out of ten, if a girl gets raped, it's partly her fault" (304). At other times this is done with apparently positive statements: "Male-femaleness is the greatest gift we have--romantic physical love may be unique to this planet" (419). A statement like this one is troubling not because of its emphasis on romantic physical love but because of its insistence on the male-female gender dichotomy as a necessary component of that love.
A more substantial example arises when Jill discovers that she likes to be looked at it, that it makes her feel desirable. She says, "Okay, if a healthy woman liked to be looked at, then it follows as the night the day that healthy men should like to look, else there was just no darn sense to it! At which point, she finally understood, intellectually, Duke and his pictures" (302-3). The realization that she likes to be looked at is fine as far as it goes, although the immediate leap from there to pornography is definitely a problem (pornography of course having huge and unavoidable issues of power wrapped up in it that this analysis neatly sidesteps). Following Jill's realization of her own desire to be looked at, Mike comes to see that "Naughty pictures are a great goodness" and they go together to strip clubs to enjoy the live version. However, "Jill found that she 'grokked naughty pictures' only through a man's eyes. If Mike watched, she shared his mood, from sensuous pleasure to full rut--but if Mike's attention wandered, the model, dancer, or peeler was just another woman. She decided that this was fortunate; to have discovered in herself Lesbian tendencies would have been too much" (307). Here, Heinlein brings together his progressive, free love ideas about sex itself with his more traditional ideas about gender roles and his leaning toward homophobia. The conclusion Jill arrives at here is that a) sex and desire are good, b) women are the spectacle, never the spectator, and c) lesbianism is completely taboo, even for someone who is otherwise interested in opening herself up to sexual love in its many forms. This one scene simply brings together these ideas that recur throughout the second half of the book. Repeatedly, it is made clear that homosexual behavior is a danger for Mike to avoid and that women's role in sexual behavior is essentially passive.
Тут кстати и имеется про пассивную роль женщины, и про недопущение гомо, а значит гомофобии.
Как по мне так вуальненький комент. С легким таким возмущением.
Я вот подумал что напиши я такой комент, ну или мысля в таком направлении, то мне в принципе ничего не оставалось бы как остаться при своем мнении, хлопнуть дверью, послать Дока на все четыре стороны, да и вообще послать нафиг весь этот форум с его участниками и уйти с высоко поднятой головой и с твердой убежденностью в своей правоте высокоморальной.
Ну вообще я бы эту Christy за километр обходил бы🙂 ну то есть наверное можно с ней общаться, дела вести и обсуждать, но как дело дошло бы до интима то там было все оч сложно имхо.
Прям думаешь о том, что может Кирилл прав и у нас кучка сопротивления такая. Правда с официальным мнением он ошибается - официальное мнение против того что женщины пассивны, а мужчины активны.
То есть Кирилл довольно прогрессивные идеи этим высказывает, сексуально революционные даже имхо.
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