How to increase heterosexual component?

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Only from a scientific and experimental point of view, I would like to know if there is any method or exercise that can increase attraction to the opposite sex.

I want to clarify that, in my hopinion, reparative therapy was wrong, maybe for the method but also because tried to make heterosexual conversions.
Instead I think that for someone must co-exhist a component heterosexual and an homosexual one.
I don't think it is bad if there is also the heterosexual component.
I think also that research in this field is delayed (maybe forever) for political reasons, not scientific reasons, and as a scientist-minded I hate this reaction.

I prefer don't talk about my situation for avoiding off-topic answers.
 

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Only from a scientific and experimental point of view, I would like to know if there is any method or exercise that can increase attraction to the opposite sex.
That sounds somewhat ambiguously.
Can you clarify "increase attraction to the opposite sex"?
I want to be more attractive to the opposite sex.
Or I want opposite sex to be more attractive to me.
Thank you.

The rose is red, the violet's blue.
Sugar is sweet,
And so attraction to the opposite sex.

:)
 
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Only from a scientific and experimental point of view, I would like to know if there is any method or exercise that can increase attraction to the opposite sex.
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If I understand you correctly, then the question of changing the force of attraction, attraction to the opposite sex. I am also engaged in this issue, and first of all - I investigate the cause of the weakening. One work - to strengthen the weakened, as for example - the weak work of the stomach or heart. Or the weak muscles of the arms and legs. This is a problem for drugs, for exercises and training, or perhaps on the contrary - for rest before training! Individually, IMHO. Quite a different job, the direction of work - when you want to switch the direction of the body or system. For example, the student is not learning well. But not because he thinks weakly! But because he has "hyperactivity" and is distracted in his lessons! Help is possible, but completely different! Do not need to reinforce what already works, but in an undesirable direction.

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Se ti capisco correttamente, allora la questione di cambiare la forza dell'attrazione, l'attrazione verso il sesso opposto. Sono anche impegnata in questo tema e, prima di tutto, indagano la causa dell'indebolimento. Un lavoro - per rafforzare l'indebolimento, come per esempio - il debole lavoro dello stomaco o del cuore. Oppure i muscoli deboli delle braccia e delle gambe. Questo è un problema per le droghe, per esercizi e addestramento, o forse al contrario - per riposare prima dell'allenamento! Individualmente, IMHO. Un lavoro diverso, la direzione del lavoro - quando si desidera cambiare la direzione del corpo o del sistema. Ad esempio, lo studente non sta imparando bene. Ma non perché pensa debolmente! Ma perché ha "iperattività" ed è distratto nelle sue lezioni! L'aiuto è possibile, ma completamente diverso! Non è necessario rafforzare ciò che già funziona, ma in una direzione indesiderata.


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Если я Вас правильно понял, то вопрос об изменении силы влечения, притяжения к противоположному полу.
Я занимаюсь и этим вопросом, и прежде всего - исследую причину ослабления.
Одна работа - усиливать ослабленное, как например - слабую работу желудка или сердца. или слабые мышцы рук, ног.
Это задача для препаратов, для упражнений и тренировок, или возможно наоборот - для отдыха перед тренироками!
Индивидуально, имхо.
Совсем другая работа, направление работы - когда требуется переключить направление работы органа или системы.
Например - ученик плохо учится. но не потому, что слабо думает! а потому, что имеет "гиперактивность" и отвлекается на уроках!
Помощь тоже возможна, но совсем другая!
Не нужно усиливать то, что и так работает, но в нежелательном направлении.
Имхо :)
 

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I prefer don't talk about my situation for avoiding off-topic answers.
I agree with the distraction from personal information, completely, in this matter. However, if you want to know the reasons for the failure of reparative therapy at home - I'll ask you anonymously, but tell a little about what therapy was used, what goals were set, what reasons were found ..

Sono d'accordo con la distrazione dalle informazioni personali, completamente, in questa materia. Tuttavia, se vuoi conoscere le cause del fallimento della terapia riparatoria a casa - ti chiedo anonimamente, ma dico un po 'di cosa è stata utilizzata la terapia, quali sono stati fissati gli obiettivi, quali ragioni sono state trovate ..

Я согласен с отвлечением от личной информации, полностью, в данном вопросе.
Однако если Вы пожелаете узнать причины неуспешности репаративной терапии именно у себя - я попрошу Вас анонимно, но рассказать немного о том, что за терапия проводилась, какие цели ставились, какие причины были найдены..
 

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I meant I don't wanna talk about my sexual orientation. Because can be off-topic. I never had reparative therapy, in Italy is forbidden.
I would like to know if there is something to do by ourselves (without psychologist or similar).
If not, it is not a problem, I just asked. ;)
 

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I would like to know if there is something to do by ourselves (without psychologist or similar).
If not, it is not a problem, I just asked. ;)
Magic wand?:)
What did you do about it?
I'm sure you did, right?
Maybe it didn't help.
Seriously I dont't get what you want to find, what answers.:)
 

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I meant I don't wanna talk about my sexual orientation. Because can be off-topic. I never had reparative therapy, in Italy is forbidden.
I would like to know if there is something to do by ourselves (without psychologist or similar).
If not, it is not a problem, I just asked. ;)
Yes, of course there is an opportunity for independent work, I personally worked with my sexuality on my own and did not even plan to turn to a specialist. But I was still an "introvert", a "schizoid", and therefore the appeal to the outside world was not considered by me. In the "outer world" for me there were only books, from the good :)

Sì, ovviamente c'è un'opportunità per lavoro indipendente, personalmente ho lavorato con la mia stessa sessualità e non ho nemmeno programmato di rivolgermi a uno specialista. Ma ero ancora "introvertito", uno "schizoide", e pertanto l'appello al mondo esterno non è stato considerato da me. Nel "mondo esterno" per me c'erano solo libri, dal bene :)
 

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I think that we can use a D2 agonists with masturbation to heterosexual porn, because D2 agonists can facilitate sexual conditioning http://hiderefer.me/?http://journal-dl.com/item/591088643fbb6e137440dbaa

"Mr. Jambart was a loving father, husband and respected member of his community but within two years of taking Requip® (Ropinirole, a D2 agonist) became a compulsive gay sex addict. Although it is only a case report, the note may indicate the powerful effect of D2-type agonists on the capacity of individuals to be conditioned via Pavlovian learning. One possible explanation for this particular case is that despite the putative “sexual experience” as a married man the enhancement of D2-type activity with antiParkinsonıs´ medicine (two year long) facilitated the development of conditioned same-sex preferences"
 

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I propose to suggest that in the life of this Mr. Jambart for two years there was much more events, and not just taking the drug.

Propongo di suggerire che nella vita di questo signor Jambart per due anni ci sono stati molti più eventi, e non solo prendendo il farmaco.
 

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I propose to suggest that in the life of this Mr. Jambart for two years there was much more events, and not just taking the drug.

Propongo di suggerire che nella vita di questo signor Jambart per due anni ci sono stati molti più eventi, e non solo prendendo il farmaco.
Of course! Drugs can't change sexual preference, but they can facilitate sexual conditioning and psychotherapy. In this case drug induced state of hypersexuality, and we know that hypersexuality is optimal state for changing sexual preference, that why hypersexual people especially teenagers have very unstable sexual orientation.

Another possible tool which can facilitate sexual reconditioning is deep brain stimulation. I read article that suggested deep brain stimulation for pedophilia treatment.
 
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from a scientific and experimental point of view to demonstrate possibility of changing sex preferences.
Yes, the main question for gays, pedophiles and other people - is it possible in principle to change the sexual orientation, in special even conditions, or is it _principally impossible. the hypothesis of impossibility comes from the assumption that there are no structures in the adult brain to perceive an unaccustomed sexual object. imprinting occurred in childhood, or even "from birth" there are no specific nerve structures. if there are changes in attraction, sexuality, and in adults - the main question is solved positively.

Sì, la domanda principale per i gay, i pedofili e altre persone - è possibile in linea di principio cambiare l'orientamento sessuale, in condizioni particolari uguali, o è praticamente impossibile. l'ipotesi di impossibilità deriva dall'ipotesi che non esistano strutture nel cervello adulto per percepire un oggetto sessuale non abituato. l'imprinting si è verificato nell'infanzia, o anche "dalla nascita" non ci sono strutture specifiche del nervo. se ci sono cambiamenti nell'attrazione, nella sessualità e negli adulti - la questione principale viene risolta positivamente.

да, основной вопрос для геев, педофилов и других людей - возможно ли в принципе изменить сексуальную ориентацию, в особых даже условиях, или же это _принципиально_ невозможно.
гипотеза о невозможности исходит из предположения об отсутствии структур в головном мозге взрослого человека для восприятия непривычного сексуального обьекта.
импритинг произошел в детстве, или же вообще "от рождения" нет определенных нервных структур.
если же происходят изменения влечения, сексуальности, и у взрослых людей - основной вопрос решается положительно.
Имхо :)
 

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It is in the life of loving father, husband, respected member of his community could be more events?!?!
Are you joking, Doc?!?

:)
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Husbands are different :) like his wife, of course. perhaps, for example, wife's mother came to visit ... and the man, the husband, lives now at work :)

but the life of a loving caring father just includes a lot of interesting and .. not-boring;)

i mariti sono diversi :) come sua moglie, naturalmente. forse, ad esempio, la madre di mia moglie è venuta a visitare ... e l'uomo, il marito, vive attualmente sul lavoro :) ma la vita di un padre amorevole amante include solo un sacco di interessanti e .. non-noioso;)
 

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or even "from birth" there are no specific nerve structures.
Even if it be true (for me it sounds plausible) opportunity to recruit other neuronal structures for heterosexual performance can exist. We could draw parallel between paraphilia and dyslexia. Yes it is possible that child can be born with impairment of neuronal structures for reading, but it is possible using special exercises to recruit other neuronal structures for reading.
 

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Of course! Drugs can't change sexual preference, but they can facilitate sexual conditioning and psychotherapy. In this case drug induced state of hypersexuality, and we know that hypersexuality is optimal state for changing sexual preference, that why hypersexual people especially teenagers have very unstable sexual orientation.

Another possible tool which can facilitate sexual reconditioning is deep brain stimulation. I read article that suggested deep brain stimulation for pedophilia treatment.
I agree. I apply, if necessary, drugs for "liberating", "removing the shackles" and nervous tension in my patients. But often it turns out to open and strengthen the attraction to the opposite sex and age of peers without these drugs. In practice - so.

Sono d'accordo. Io applico, se necessario, farmaci per "liberare", "rimuovere i grilli" e la tensione nervosa nei miei pazienti. ma spesso si scopre di aprire e rafforzare l'attrazione verso il sesso opposto e l'età dei pari senza questi farmaci. in pratica - così.
 

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Even if it be true (for me it sounds plausible) opportunity to recruit other neuronal structures for heterosexual performance can exist. We could draw parallel between paraphilia and dyslexia. Yes it is possible that child can be born with impairment of neuronal structures for reading, but it is possible using special exercises to recruit other neuronal structures for reading.
I agree. We can use special exercises to develop weakened brain structures. In addition, we can find out whether such a child had a prohibition on reading, studying, on certain topics of study. and there was a prohibition, in the past, in childhood - it is necessary to neutralize it, to remove such a ban to study the brain structures proper!

Sono d'accordo. Possiamo usare esercizi speciali per sviluppare le strutture cerebrali indebolite. Inoltre, possiamo scoprire se un tale bambino ha avuto un divieto di leggere, studiare, su alcuni argomenti di studio. ed è stato un divieto, in passato, nell'infanzia - è necessario neutralizzarlo, per eliminare un divieto per studiare le strutture del cervello propriamente!
 

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It's incredible how reparative therapy is used for conversion an homosexual to heterosexuality and not toward bisexuality. I think this is why it is not ethically correct the first definition!
Now it is time to change the definition! :)
 

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It's incredible how reparative therapy is used for conversion an homosexual to heterosexuality and not toward bisexuality. I think this is why it is not ethically correct the first definition!
Now it is time to change the definition! :)
Good afternoon!
At this forum, for a number of reasons, the conversion of homosexual into bisexual is more often discussed.
Homosexual, gay, or lesbian - usually afraid of losing their habitual sexuality. In Russian it sounds "I have a bird in my hand, I'm afraid to change it for a crane in the sky."
The crane is potentially large, but it is not known whether it will work out or not. A titmouse is small, but it's in the hands!
Therefore, the request for treatment often includes such a condition - not to deprive a person of choice, to give the opportunity to choose independently after receiving heterosexual attraction and behavior.
I support this option.
However, in many cases people want to get rid of homosexuality, and on the contrary they are asked to make them "pure" heterosexuals.
For example - with such a request, an Orthodox priest or a good Catholic turns.
I also respect such a request, such an option.

Buon pomeriggio!
In questo forum, per una serie di motivi, la conversione dell'omosessuale in bisessuale è più spesso discussa.
Homosexual, gay o lesbiche - di solito paura di perdere la loro sessualità abituale. In russo suona "Ho un uccello in mano, ho paura di cambiarlo per una gru nel cielo".
La gru è potenzialmente grande, ma non è noto se funzionerà o meno. Un titmouse è piccolo, ma è nelle mani!
Pertanto, la richiesta di trattamento spesso include una tale condizione - per non privare una persona a scelta, per dare l'opportunità di scegliere in modo indipendente dopo aver ricevuto l'attrazione e il comportamento eterosessuali.
Sostengo questa opzione.
Tuttavia, in molti casi la gente vuole sbarazzarsi dell'omosessualità e, al contrario, viene chiesto di renderli eterosessuali "puri".
Ad esempio, con una tale richiesta, un prete ortodosso o una buona svolta cattolica.
Rispondo anche tale richiesta, una tale opzione.

Добрый день!
На этом форуме по ряду причин чаще обсуждается именно преобразование гомосексуала в бисексуала.
Гомосексуал, гей, или лесбиянка - обычно опасаются утратить свою привычную сексуальность. По русски это звучит "имею синицу в руках, боюсь поменять её на журавля в небе".
Журавль - это потенциально большое, но неизвестно - получится ли или нет получить. А синица - маленькая, но она вот, в руках!
Поэтому в запрос на лечение часто входит такое условие - не лишать человека выбора, дать возможность выбирать самостоятельно _после_ получения гетеросексуального влечения и поведения.
Я уважаю и поддерживаю этот вариант.
Однако во многих случаях людям хочется избавиться от гомосексуальности, и они наоборот - просят сделать их "чистыми" гетеросексуалами.
Например - с такой просьбой обращается православный священник или добрый католик.
Я уважаю и такой запрос, такой вариант.
 

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A lot of people are afraid of their homosexual habits. I am not. But I want to increase my heterosexual attraction because I want to marry a woman, I prefer to have a baby with her. During today and that day I think I can "have fun" with whoever I want.
Damn, it does not exist a psychologist here in Italy who supports us :) they are hidden
 

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Sorry, I'm distracted from your topic. I hope that I will be able to reply more tonight.
Scusa, sono distratto dal tuo argomento. Spero di poter rispondere di più stasera.
 

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A lot of people are afraid of their homosexual habits. I am not. But I want to increase my heterosexual attraction because I want to marry a woman, I prefer to have a baby with her. During today and that day I think I can "have fun" with whoever I want.
Damn, it does not exist a psychologist here in Italy who supports us :) they are hidden
To me for an answer, a reliable answer - a little more information is needed.
Briefly - if there is a reason that makes heterosexual contact shameful, potentially dangerous or threatening - then you must first eliminate this cause, even if it seems to have been left behind long ago, left in the past ..
Otherwise, the story of a "married gay" arises when at first a person is addicted, and then, in a year or so and a half, the desire decreases ..

Per me, per una risposta, una risposta affidabile, sono necessarie ulteriori informazioni.
In breve - se c'è una ragione che rende il contatto eterosessuale vergognoso, potenzialmente pericoloso o minaccioso - allora devi prima eliminare questa causa, anche se sembra che sia stata lasciata indietro molto tempo fa, lasciata nel passato ..
Altrimenti, la storia di un "gay sposato" sorge quando all'inizio una persona è dipendente, e poi, in un anno o giù di lì, il desiderio diminuisce ..

Мне для ответа, достоверного ответа - необходимо немного больше информации.
Коротко - если есть причина, делающая гетеросексуальный контакт стыдным, потенциально опасным или угрожающим - то необходимо сначала устранить эту причину, даже если она кажется оставшейся давно забытой, оставшейся в прошлом..
Иначе - возникает история "женатого гея", когда вначале человек увлекается, а затем ,через год-полтора примерно - желание уменьшается..